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Post  Danielle on Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:19 am

Discuss theories.

SUCH AS THIS NEW ONE I'VE JUST READ:
Peter's been killed by a shapeshifter.

I don't want to believe it. I barely believe it. But a tiny part of me is panicking anyway...
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Post  monnie44 on Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:09 am

Not possible!

He's too normal with Olivia and in tune with their situation.

Smile Don't worry, he's just gone insane.
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Post  Larissa on Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:25 am

IF HE'D BEEN KILLED BY A SHAPESHIFTER HIS BLOOD WOULD BE MOSTLY MERCURY IN IT AND HE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO WORK THE MACHINE, RIGHT? O.o

I don't think he has, anyway. I think his attitude was a mix of being "weaponized", and (as I flailed when Nina mentioned it) he's been through too much and had no one to talk to. It's probably built up into shit loads of anger and made him darker, but being weaponized has just made him not give a fuck.
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Post  monnie44 on Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:45 am

I'm not sure where to put this.

But. I am so overly sensitive or something at the moment, but I feel like we have been given SO MANY HINTS in very recent episodes towards a sick Peter storyline.

Case in point:
Entrada's dragged out needle scene and the worried Walter scene - I loved it, but it was a very long scene in a very fast-paced episode, that really did nothing to advance the plot.
Peter's death theme running all through Firefly - and the omnious ending by the Observers, and the creepy, creepy set up of that final scene with him and Walter paralleling the one where young Peter dies in bed. Plus the rosemary soup.
Now, even in Reciprocity, I am going nuts. a. the nosebleed. b. Peter's very dark under-eye shadows at the end of the episode in the final scene. Walter's comment about how Peter is not sleeping. The damn, dragged out MRI (I mean, was that scene REALLY a necessity? Could it not have just been mentioned later on as opposed to a very extended scene dedicated to it?), and the general concern that's surrounding him. Plus the violence also seems like a second callback to "What Lies Below".

And then there's this:



Wow I am paranoid. But ... SURELY all this can't be a coincidence? I mean, really?
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Post  Larissa on Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:58 am

OMG MONIQUE. That's frikkin' amazing *______*

...I think you're right. There's no way that can be a coincidence xD I had to stare for a while to even register what epicness I was seeing :') Any theories on his elevated heart rate? Surely if that goes on for a long time, it could have serious effects, too?

I liked the MRI scene :') I liked Peter trying not to appear nervous and Walter being protective. Plus we got Olivia touching Peter's hand <3
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Post  Danielle on Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:03 am

Oh my God that's amazing. Please let the Fringe writers be as smart as you xD

I hope the s3 finale is Peter just being rushed to hospital because the disease has just hit him hard rather than the machine. We have seasons and seasons for him to use the machine. Hopefully.
I hope Walter's wrong. Peter's not being weaponized, the disease is affecting his mind. But then the writers have never really made Walter wrong.
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Post  Larissa on Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:07 am

NO! I think the idea of him being weaponized is hot and awesome! He's becoming dark and 'mechanical' in the way he can disconnect himself and his emotions from what he does.

I need a scene where Peter's being rushed around on a gurney, covered in blood (I don't mind whose), with an oxygen mask on and groaning in pain xD
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Post  Danielle on Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:14 am

I think he might have been like this before he met Olivia. I still think that scene in Johari is... weird. How killing someone for the first time is hard. I don't think that was the first time he's killed (excluding that time he didn't save that guy from suicide bombing).
PLEASE CAN PETER GET SHOT?
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Post  monnie44 on Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:43 am

AWESOME, I MIGHT SHARE MY FIND WITH OTHERS. Smile

Any theories on his elevated heart rate? Surely if that goes on for a long time, it could have serious effects, too?

You are correct - chronic tach can lead to bad things happening to the heart, as the organ has to pump too hard and it weakens it. Not a positive sign. Interesting though that all the other tests they did on him seemed fine. Of course, I don't think the disease has come back yet. I think we're getting foreshadowing.

Plus we got Olivia touching Peter's hand <3
LOVE LOVE LOVE

I hope the s3 finale is Peter just being rushed to hospital because the disease has just hit him hard rather than the machine. We have seasons and seasons for him to use the machine. Hopefully.
I hope Walter's wrong. Peter's not being weaponized, the disease is affecting his mind. But then the writers have never really made Walter wrong.

Mm, what about the machine is the kickstart to the disease? This thing that Peter got was extremely, extremely rare, wasn't it? Could it actually be connected with Peter's ability to use the machine?

I think he might have been like this before he met Olivia. I still think that scene in Johari is... weird. How killing someone for the first time is hard.

Lol, um, I honestly though he and Olivia were having a bit of (intentional, on Peter's part) miscommunication going on in that scene. No part of me would believe he hadn't killed before that, and that has now been elevated to a fact since I saw his handywork in this episode. Possibly, he was angsting over the reminder of the man he used to be? And that, at the time, it was a bad memory of things he didn't want to return to.
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Post  Larissa on Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:06 am

Danielle wrote:I think he might have been like this before he met Olivia. I still think that scene in Johari is... weird. How killing someone for the first time is hard. I don't think that was the first time he's killed (excluding that time he didn't save that guy from suicide bombing).
PLEASE CAN PETER GET SHOT?
RIGHT? There's no way that was his first kill.

monnie44 wrote:You are correct - chronic tach can lead to bad things happening to the heart, as the organ has to pump too hard and it weakens it. Not a positive sign. Interesting though that all the other tests they did on him seemed fine. Of course, I don't think the disease has come back yet. I think we're getting foreshadowing.
I was expecting something to crop up on the other tests too. I was craving a scene where Peter found out bad news and didn't know how to tell Walter.

Lol, um, I honestly though he and Olivia were having a bit of (intentional, on Peter's part) miscommunication going on in that scene. No part of me would believe he hadn't killed before that, and that has now been elevated to a fact since I saw his handywork in this episode. Possibly, he was angsting over the reminder of the man he used to be? And that, at the time, it was a bad memory of things he didn't want to return to.
OMG YES! THIS PLEASE.
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Post  Danielle on Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:34 am

We know he was definitely in a bad place before he met Olivia and I think if he'd been ordered to kill someone in order to keep up a con or to keep alive himself he will have done it. I think he's done some shit in his past. He's open about his childhood, and up to his mother's death, but we know nothing about who he was between her death and the Pilot.
I'm also getting a fic idea right now xD
I think he could be pretty damn heartless if he wanted to be. I don't know if the machine is weaponizing him or if it's just making someone he used to be resurface.

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Post  Larissa on Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:04 am

If it was something like, Peter had to kill someone so that a mob boss believed his cover story and he didn't execute him on the spot, I could definitely see Peter doing it. And if there was like a masisve group of mafia guys hunting Peter down, I could 100% see him snapping necks, taking guns and burning buildings down on top of them.
TELL US OF THIS FIC IDEA. *____________*
I hope it's the machine weaponizing him and his past resurfacing. I'm in love with the idea that the machine's fucking with his head and he's losing his identity to it. It could make his old self come back, just with less inhibitions and slightly more twisted.
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Post  Danielle on Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:34 am

I think he could've been an awful person at one point. I think maybe he and Big Eddie were pretty close and he did all of his dirty work for him and then Peter just turned on him or vice versa.
It was just gonna be Peter on one of his "gotta go kill someone" missions from Big Eddie only it's like a family 0_0
I just hope somehow somewhere along the line his past does resurface. He intrigues me so much, I just want to know what he's done. I want to see him really twisted. You know how he cut off that guys fingers? Next is one by one, working his way up >: D
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Post  smatchiemo on Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:34 pm

So wait, though... isn't the timeline:

1 - Peter comes home in the middle of the night with his seahorse bag.
2 - They go look at the weapon, nosebleeding ensues
3 - Someone finds the body

Peter was just being badass regular Peter and it had nothing to do with the machine.

I really like the thought of him being capable of much more than we give him credit for. Surely his days of inter-continental shenanigans involved more than just learning how to tap into a phone line. That dude in Iraq hated him.

I hope we see more of this.
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Post  Danielle on Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:38 pm

I think Walter meant when Peter touched it Over There. Maybe his happiness with Altlivia was keeping him from being weaponized and now he's lost her he's got no reason to be happy anymore so he can focus on shooting up some hoes.
The dude in Iraq hated him cause Peter kinda brought about the death of his brother iirc 0_0
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Post  Larissa on Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:54 pm

Dani, it scares me how we think alike xD I always thought it would be Eddie wanting him to kill a kid, so Peter protects the kid, Eddie finds out later and pretty much forces Peter out of Boston.

I want to hear a twisted, dark, hysterical laugh. I want him to completely lose his shit.
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Post  smatchiemo on Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:55 pm

Larissa wrote:Dani, it scares me how we think alike xD I always thought it would be Eddie wanting him to kill a kid, so Peter protects the kid, Eddie finds out later and pretty much forces Peter out of Boston.

I want to hear a twisted, dark, hysterical laugh. I want him to completely lose his shit.

I guess we'll never find out Big Eddie's motivations UNTIL THEY FUCKING BRING HIM BACK ALREADY AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
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Post  Larissa on Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:56 pm

If they won't actually bring him back with a story, they could do hallucinations? Or Peter-flashbacks? They'd still be kinda cool *_________*
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Post  smatchiemo on Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:57 pm

Larissa wrote:If they won't actually bring him back with a story, they could do hallucinations? Or Peter-flashbacks? They'd still be kinda cool *_________*

I just want to know why they won't bring him back with a story. They practically dedicated half an episode to him, and now nothing.
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Post  Danielle on Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:07 pm

Oooooh a dark hysterical laugh. Like Peter's got a shapeshifter on the floor and Olivia's like "Peter, he's willing to help us, just let him go," and he laughs and stabs him.
I just want Big Eddie back to add more shit to Petah's life.
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Post  Larissa on Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:26 pm

Remember when that DICK Michael told some evil guy that Peter was back? I shat myself. I thought for sure we'd have some of that story soon afterwrds :'(

Ooooh I saw it as some guy threatening to kill Peter, and Peter just lets out some hysterical laugh like "You think I care if you kill me? Geez, you'd be saving two universes, do it." And Walter, Olivia and Broyles are horrified at his attitude towards his life *_______*
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Post  smatchiemo on Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:34 pm

Larissa wrote:Remember when that DICK Michael told some evil guy that Peter was back? I shat myself. I thought for sure we'd have some of that story soon afterwrds :'(

Ooooh I saw it as some guy threatening to kill Peter, and Peter just lets out some hysterical laugh like "You think I care if you kill me? Geez, you'd be saving two universes, do it." And Walter, Olivia and Broyles are horrified at his attitude towards his life *_______*

I absolutely remember that. Which episode was it? Like, the first ten?

IT'S FUCKING SEASON THREE.
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Post  Danielle on Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:37 pm

Maybe the guy on the other end went "Who's Peter?" "That dude who lied about our boss being after him." "Aww bless him, he's still trying to pick up girls with that line?" "Yeah, and guys too now." "He is not." "He so is." "No way!" "I know, right?" "Shut up!!" "I KNOW, RIGHT?!"
And then they start bitching about the receptionist.

OOOH LARISSA. I LOVE IT. I WANT THAT SCENE ALMOST AS MUCH AS I WANT CONPORN.
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Post  Larissa on Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:08 pm

smatchiemo wrote:
I absolutely remember that. Which episode was it? Like, the first ten?

IT'S FUCKING SEASON THREE.

Yeah, it was episode 9 of season 1 :/

Danielle wrote:
OOOH LARISSA. I LOVE IT. I WANT THAT SCENE ALMOST AS MUCH AS I WANT CONPORN.

OH HOW GLORIOUS IT WOULD BE TO HAVE HOMICIDAL AND SUICIDAL PETER *________*
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Post  Danielle on Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:23 pm

AND HAVE HIM TOO INSANE TO EVEN REALIZE THAT OLIVIA AND HIS FATHER IS THERE. OH GOD I WANT HIS MIND GONE COMPLETELY. I'M GETTING FRIGHTENINGLY ADDICTED TO INSANE PETER SCENARIOS.
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